Comments on: God Worships Himself. http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/ theology.technology.bloggy. Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:23:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: bryanclopez http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-328 bryanclopez Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:30:09 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-328 Wes, I appreciate your thoughts, but if I may respond... There are several presuppositions that are associated with the word "Worship" so, when thinking on this specific subject we ought to try and break down our normative thought pattern. I do disagree with your remarks, because thinking on this topic logically we find that the innate nature of God is to glorify Himself. In fact he points everything in creation to the glorification of Himself. God's primary agenda is the exaltation of Himself and this is fleshed out in all of creation. He might not be standing in front of a mirror, saying oh how beautiful I am... but I think I can be bold enough to say, He is declaring to everything how great He is! Now to your other remark... I do agree that it can be dangerous to over emphasize philosophy when talking theology, but some of the best methodology in christian apologetics is found in philosophy... so the two can be mixed. Wes,

I appreciate your thoughts, but if I may respond…

There are several presuppositions that are associated with the word “Worship” so, when thinking on this specific subject we ought to try and break down our normative thought pattern.

I do disagree with your remarks, because thinking on this topic logically we find that the innate nature of God is to glorify Himself. In fact he points everything in creation to the glorification of Himself. God’s primary agenda is the exaltation of Himself and this is fleshed out in all of creation. He might not be standing in front of a mirror, saying oh how beautiful I am… but I think I can be bold enough to say, He is declaring to everything how great He is!

Now to your other remark… I do agree that it can be dangerous to over emphasize philosophy when talking theology, but some of the best methodology in christian apologetics is found in philosophy… so the two can be mixed.

]]> By: wes http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-327 wes Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:57:35 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-327 It is my contention that philosophy and theology are two seperate disciplines. Mixing the two makes for a dismantled faith structure. Either one is right and the other not necessary or if one fails a test of stability they both will fall. Keep the two apart and they can contribute to each other but merge them and you are heading for a disolution of the effectiveness of either or both. Finite language will fail in the complete discription of the infinite yet, it is all we have apart from experience. I fail to believe you or anyone else has witnessed God worshipping himself. It is my contention that philosophy and theology are two seperate disciplines. Mixing the two makes for a dismantled faith structure. Either one is right and the other not necessary or if one fails a test of stability they both will fall. Keep the two apart and they can contribute to each other but merge them and you are heading for a disolution of the effectiveness of either or both. Finite language will fail in the complete discription of the infinite yet, it is all we have apart from experience. I fail to believe you or anyone else has witnessed God worshipping himself.

]]> By: wes http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-326 wes Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:50 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-326 Not convinced that being God means he worships self. To be ultimate is not a foregone conclusion to self worship. It is true that he cannot deny his ultimacy but it doesn't mean he stands in a mirror and worships Himself. I refer you to the creation story, He said, "it is good" refering to creation. The identity statements of "I am that I am" does not imply worship while it does imply ultimacy. Careful that you don't lead folk to a 'self absorbed life', the image of God. Jesus was by nature selfless. Not convinced that being God means he worships self. To be ultimate is not a foregone conclusion to self worship. It is true that he cannot deny his ultimacy but it doesn’t mean he stands in a mirror and worships Himself. I refer you to the creation story, He said, “it is good” refering to creation. The identity statements of “I am that I am” does not imply worship while it does imply ultimacy. Careful that you don’t lead folk to a ‘self absorbed life’, the image of God. Jesus was by nature selfless.

]]> By: Malachi http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-118 Malachi Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:09:25 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-118 Wow, very interesting post. I will have to read it through a couple of times to make sure I'm catching everything. Wow, very interesting post. I will have to read it through a couple of times to make sure I’m catching everything.

]]> By: danny http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-117 danny Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:31:03 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-117 No, problem, Brain, I mean, Brian, I mean, Bryan :-D Thanks for the encouraging note! No, problem, Brain, I mean, Brian, I mean, Bryan :-D

Thanks for the encouraging note!

]]> By: bryanclopez http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-116 bryanclopez Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:29:47 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-116 Sorry about that Danny. Love your blog, keep up the great postings! SDG, Bryan Sorry about that Danny. Love your blog, keep up the great postings!

SDG,
Bryan

]]> By: danny http://bryanlopez.com/2008/07/23/god-worships-himself/#comment-115 danny Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:27:28 +0000 http://bryanclopez.wordpress.com/?p=225#comment-115 Thanks for linking to my blog in your links and mentioning my post. It's actually, Danny, not Denny, though (: I'll add you to my list of blogs. Blessings, Danny Thanks for linking to my blog in your links and mentioning my post. It’s actually, Danny, not Denny, though (:

I’ll add you to my list of blogs.

Blessings,
Danny

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